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Post by Uesugi-dono on Nov 14, 2019 20:07:18 GMT
I can't be painted as anything but X due to 74, but for me a millennial is someone born around the 2000s. 80s kids are probably closer, culturally, to Xers than to Millennials. 90s kinds though? So Zs are now in their 20s? What are we calling our kids? According to the people who coin these terms Gen Z would be currently between the ages of 4/7 and 24. The term for the current group of kids being born I've seen so far has been Gen Alpha, but man does that sound lame. How about Gen Oof?
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Post by Uesugi-dono on Nov 14, 2019 22:50:01 GMT
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Post by endorbr on Nov 19, 2019 15:11:54 GMT
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Post by Uesugi-dono on Nov 19, 2019 16:29:20 GMT
Maybe she needs to blame marketing. I didn't even know about this movie until she started bitching about its failure. And just because there are several Spider-Man movies doesn't mean we need an edgy reboot (again) of what was, honestly, a shitty 70s tv show built around tits, ass, and the novel concept of women as secret agents. Edit: “If this movie doesn’t make money it reinforces a stereotype in Hollywood that men don’t go see women do action movies.” Um, Wonder Woman? Maybe men go and see good movies, regardless of the director's genitals.
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Post by endorbr on Nov 19, 2019 16:38:13 GMT
Maybe she needs to blame marketing. I didn't even know about this movie until she started bitching about its failure. And just because there are several Spider-Man movies doesn't mean we need an edgy reboot (again) of what was, honestly, a shitty 70s tv show built around tits, ass, and the novel concept of women as secret agents. I "love" that the people behind this honestly believe that Charlie's Angels is supposedly about female empowerment, feminism, wokeness, and somehow sticking it to the patriarchy and rape culture. Except that's absolutely not what the TV show Charlie's Angels was about at all. It was about three hot chicks fighting crime and kicking ass so guys could oogle them and girls wanted to be them so that guys would want to oogle them. Thus the casting of Farrah Fawcett and why every straight teenage dude in the late 70s had this wank poster on their bedroom wall
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Post by endorbr on Nov 19, 2019 19:55:38 GMT
Yikes
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Post by Uesugi-dono on Nov 19, 2019 19:57:38 GMT
I like it because the people on Gizmodo don't
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Post by endorbr on Nov 19, 2019 20:05:53 GMT
I like it because the people on Gizmodo don't Hell has frozen over then because for once I agree with the people on Gizmodo
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Post by endorbr on Nov 20, 2019 13:25:52 GMT
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Post by Uesugi-dono on Nov 20, 2019 13:40:22 GMT
Huh? Who are they treated sexistly (is that a word? It is now) by? The View is like totally women, right? Is there a gopher who gets their triplie pump expresso pumpkin spice lattes that made a comment or something? Are they insinuating that they are something more than an opinion show? Something deeper than a table full of DiVerSe WimMiNs who chatter like a group of gibbons at the zoo? Wait, do people take them seriously?
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Post by Uesugi-dono on Nov 20, 2019 14:48:36 GMT
I don't know about any show on the CW, but this image just made me happy:
I may be one of the only people I know who LOVED Superman Returns. I teared up in the theater when the classic Superman theme hit during the plane rescue scene. Brandon Routh made a worthy successor to Christopher Reeves and the whole movie made me think:
The United States needs Superman.
Growing up, Superman was never my favorite super hero. That crown belonged to Spider-Man. But nothing represented America to me like Superman. Truth, Justice, the American Way. He was everyone's hero, always there. He was the Ideal that the USA was supposed to be: Honest, always sticking up for the little guy, Good. As a kid Superman, Ronald Reagan, and Jesus were like the Holy Trinity of Good. Only later Reagan's hypocrisy began to show and Jesus never answered any prayers, but Superman... I could always rely on Superman to do the right thing and make me feel good about it. Superman Returns recaptured that feeling in the adult me. I found myself crying uncontrollably, tears streaming, as Brandon Routh made me realize that the United States has been missing Superman.
If Superman was the avatar of the American ideal, the Man of Steel was the icon of our cultural decay. The darker turn, portraying Superman as... human, with human desires... well, it was an unwelcome dose of realism. Now Superman had darker impulses, now Superman caused metric fucktons of collateral damage. It was also oddly appropriate. And if Cavill's "wanna do right but fuck it up" Superman wasn't bad enough, along comes Homelander, from The Boys. Once more a 'Superman' represents what America has become.
Pretenses are dropped, Homelander is ultimately powerful and ultimately flawed. A damaged, self-centered individual who uses the image of his persona for personal gain, all the while (barely) hiding the darkness within. If you haven't seen The Boys, go watch it. It's really good. But as frighting as Homelander is, he still illustrates my point: the United States needs Superman. We need that symbol. We need that ideal. Without him, we've become Homelander.
This is why the image of Routh playing Superman again makes me happy. He is one of 2 acceptable Supermen in my book. Reeves and Routh. Those were the only two live-action Superman portrayals I've seen that were true to the character. I may have to check out this new CW show, Crisis on Infinite Earths, but I will keep my expectations low. I don't expect Superman to save us. Indeed, we may be beyond saving. But it sure feels good to see him again.
Oh, and guess who's playing Bruce Wayne? Probably the best Batman of them all.
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Post by Uesugi-dono on Nov 20, 2019 15:22:58 GMT
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Post by endorbr on Nov 20, 2019 15:35:28 GMT
The most important takeaway: "The audience Hollywood likes to pretend doesn’t matter anymore." Exactly this. Hollywood continues to try and court the younger audience who by and large don't care and don't buy their products at the expense of the people who actually do still care and are willing to buy decent product. I'm getting increasingly tired of the message that the older generations (which they lump us in btw) should just go away and die to make room for this younger "enlightened" group who know how everything should work and just got it all figured out despite them largely having contributed nothing of value to actually make society better, while in fact constantly contributing a metric fuck ton that makes it exceedingly worse for themselves and everyone else. But then I'm sure these same idiots who wouldn't watch either of these movies will just rail on Twitter that the reason Charlie's Angels failed and that Ford versus Ferrari succeeded is the same thing, TOXIC MASCULINITY!!!
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Post by endorbr on Nov 20, 2019 15:39:00 GMT
I don't know about any show on the CW, but this image just made me happy:
I may be one of the only people I know who LOVED Superman Returns. I teared up in the theater when the classic Superman theme hit during the plane rescue scene. Brandon Routh made a worthy successor to Christopher Reeves and the whole movie made me think:
The United States needs Superman.
Growing up, Superman was never my favorite super hero. That crown belonged to Spider-Man. But nothing represented America to me like Superman. Truth, Justice, the American Way. He was everyone's hero, always there. He was the Ideal that the USA was supposed to be: Honest, always sticking up for the little guy, Good. As a kid Superman, Ronald Reagan, and Jesus were like the Holy Trinity of Good. Only later Reagan's hypocrisy began to show and Jesus never answered any prayers, but Superman... I could always rely on Superman to do the right thing and make me feel good about it. Superman Returns recaptured that feeling in the adult me. I found myself crying uncontrollably, tears streaming, as Brandon Routh made me realize that the United States has been missing Superman.
If Superman was the avatar of the American ideal, the Man of Steel was the icon of our cultural decay. The darker turn, portraying Superman as... human, with human desires... well, it was an unwelcome dose of realism. Now Superman had darker impulses, now Superman caused metric fucktons of collateral damage. It was also oddly appropriate. And if Cavill's "wanna do right but fuck it up" Superman wasn't bad enough, along comes Homelander, from The Boys. Once more a 'Superman' represents what America has become.
Pretenses are dropped, Homelander is ultimately powerful and ultimately flawed. A damaged, self-centered individual who uses the image of his persona for personal gain, all the while (barely) hiding the darkness within. If you haven't seen The Boys, go watch it. It's really good. But as frighting as Homelander is, he still illustrates my point: the United States needs Superman. We need that symbol. We need that ideal. Without him, we've become Homelander.
This is why the image of Routh playing Superman again makes me happy. He is one of 2 acceptable Supermen in my book. Reeves and Routh. Those were the only two live-action Superman portrayals I've seen that were true to the character. I may have to check out this new CW show, Crisis on Infinite Earths, but I will keep my expectations low. I don't expect Superman to save us. Indeed, we may be beyond saving. But it sure feels good to see him again.
Oh, and guess who's playing Bruce Wayne? Probably the best Batman of them all.
It's a little sad that I've largely given up on the CW Arrowverse of shows as the Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover looks like it's going to be insane. I just can't be bothered to watch Supergirl or Batwoman to make sure I'm up on all the story beats. The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow are still pretty good for the most part, albeit Arrow just got really repetitive and LGBT & SJW pandery (not Supergirl or Batwoman levels but still annoyingly so) in the last few seasons.
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Post by Uesugi-dono on Nov 20, 2019 15:43:23 GMT
I don't know about any show on the CW, but this image just made me happy:
I may be one of the only people I know who LOVED Superman Returns. I teared up in the theater when the classic Superman theme hit during the plane rescue scene. Brandon Routh made a worthy successor to Christopher Reeves and the whole movie made me think:
The United States needs Superman.
Growing up, Superman was never my favorite super hero. That crown belonged to Spider-Man. But nothing represented America to me like Superman. Truth, Justice, the American Way. He was everyone's hero, always there. He was the Ideal that the USA was supposed to be: Honest, always sticking up for the little guy, Good. As a kid Superman, Ronald Reagan, and Jesus were like the Holy Trinity of Good. Only later Reagan's hypocrisy began to show and Jesus never answered any prayers, but Superman... I could always rely on Superman to do the right thing and make me feel good about it. Superman Returns recaptured that feeling in the adult me. I found myself crying uncontrollably, tears streaming, as Brandon Routh made me realize that the United States has been missing Superman.
If Superman was the avatar of the American ideal, the Man of Steel was the icon of our cultural decay. The darker turn, portraying Superman as... human, with human desires... well, it was an unwelcome dose of realism. Now Superman had darker impulses, now Superman caused metric fucktons of collateral damage. It was also oddly appropriate. And if Cavill's "wanna do right but fuck it up" Superman wasn't bad enough, along comes Homelander, from The Boys. Once more a 'Superman' represents what America has become.
Pretenses are dropped, Homelander is ultimately powerful and ultimately flawed. A damaged, self-centered individual who uses the image of his persona for personal gain, all the while (barely) hiding the darkness within. If you haven't seen The Boys, go watch it. It's really good. But as frighting as Homelander is, he still illustrates my point: the United States needs Superman. We need that symbol. We need that ideal. Without him, we've become Homelander.
This is why the image of Routh playing Superman again makes me happy. He is one of 2 acceptable Supermen in my book. Reeves and Routh. Those were the only two live-action Superman portrayals I've seen that were true to the character. I may have to check out this new CW show, Crisis on Infinite Earths, but I will keep my expectations low. I don't expect Superman to save us. Indeed, we may be beyond saving. But it sure feels good to see him again.
Oh, and guess who's playing Bruce Wayne? Probably the best Batman of them all.
It's a little sad that I've largely given up on the CW Arrowverse of shows as the Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover looks like it's going to be insane. I just can't be bothered to watch Supergirl or Batwoman to make sure I'm up on all the story beats. The Flash and Legends of Tomorrow are still pretty good for the most part, albeit Arrow just got really repetitive and LGBT & SJW pandery (not Supergirl or Batwoman levels but still annoyingly so) in the last few seasons. Oh, I can't be bothered. I gave up on Arrow in season 2, when he turned into a pussy who wouldn't kill people. If you don't wanna kill people, don't fucking shoot arrows at them. I gave Supergirl all I could stand, which was about 45 minutes. I haven't watched ANY of the other shows. But I may check into this just to see Conroy and Routh.
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