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Post by endorbr on Nov 13, 2019 16:14:00 GMT
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Post by Uesugi-dono on Nov 13, 2019 16:21:07 GMT
This got blocked by my firewall, so I'm confused. Someone got suspended for complaining about someone else wearing a rainbow? For having a rainbow-colored flower? I need more info. If it's as simple as that, then I'm gonna guess this people went WAY out of their way, into harassment territory, in order to get suspended. If that's the case.. fine. Ain't your business what other folk wear. But since you and I pretty much share that conviction, I guess there must be more to the story.
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Post by endorbr on Nov 13, 2019 17:32:26 GMT
This got blocked by my firewall, so I'm confused. Someone got suspended for complaining about someone else wearing a rainbow? For having a rainbow-colored flower? I need more info. If it's as simple as that, then I'm gonna guess this people went WAY out of their way, into harassment territory, in order to get suspended. If that's the case.. fine. Ain't your business what other folk wear. But since you and I pretty much share that conviction, I guess there must be more to the story. Maybe this article will work for you: Student: School suspended me for ‘hate speech’ when I protested wearing LGBT rainbow poppy The gist is that it was suggested by some students and teachers that the students wear an LGBT version of the rainbow poppy, a pin that is worn in the UK and Canada in remembrance of those who fought in World War II, during a choir performance. The student in question and a friend disagreed with that "suggestion" and voiced their opinions on the matter in the form of a poster that she and a friend placed in the hallway at school. While some might look at aspects of the poster itself and argue them as offensive I could honestly say the same about asking people to wear a rainbow LGBT pride version of the pin, especially given that the purpose of the red poppy is to show remembrance for all the soldiers who fought. Making it rainbow instead politicizes what is supposed to be a symbol of togetherness in hope and remembrance and segregates it, essentially trashing the purpose of the thing. The student was taken to the principal, prevented from recording the encounter by having her property confiscated by school administration, and then suspended for "hate speech." Rather than using this as a point for open discussion and possible learning the school chose to essentially censure the girls for having an opinion other than that expressed by the teacher and school administrators. The school isn't helping any of the misinformation that was distributed around the incident by refusing to release a statement or speak with the media, hiding behind student confidentiality.
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Post by Uesugi-dono on Nov 13, 2019 18:19:36 GMT
This got blocked by my firewall, so I'm confused. Someone got suspended for complaining about someone else wearing a rainbow? For having a rainbow-colored flower? I need more info. If it's as simple as that, then I'm gonna guess this people went WAY out of their way, into harassment territory, in order to get suspended. If that's the case.. fine. Ain't your business what other folk wear. But since you and I pretty much share that conviction, I guess there must be more to the story. Maybe this article will work for you: Student: School suspended me for ‘hate speech’ when I protested wearing LGBT rainbow poppy The gist is that it was suggested by some students and teachers that the students wear an LGBT version of the rainbow poppy, a pin that is worn in the UK and Canada in remembrance of those who fought in World War II, during a choir performance. The student in question and a friend disagreed with that "suggestion" and voiced their opinions on the matter in the form of a poster that she and a friend placed in the hallway at school. While some might look at aspects of the poster itself and argue them as offensive I could honestly say the same about asking people to wear a rainbow LGBT pride version of the pin, especially given that the purpose of the red poppy is to show remembrance for all the soldiers who fought. Making it rainbow instead politicizes what is supposed to be a symbol of togetherness in hope and remembrance and segregates it, essentially trashing the purpose of the thing. The student was taken to the principal, prevented from recording the encounter by having her property confiscated by school administration, and then suspended for "hate speech." Rather than using this as a point for open discussion and possible learning the school chose to essentially censure the girls for having an opinion other than that expressed by the teacher and school administrators. The school isn't helping any of the misinformation that was distributed around the incident by refusing to release a statement or speak with the media, hiding behind student confidentiality. I pick TONS of those in Kingdom Come. They grow everywhere. But I digress... I couldn't agree with this kid more. Was he suspended for postering all over the school? That I could understand. But HATE SPEECH? I wonder if he's got a Go Fund Me.
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Post by endorbr on Nov 13, 2019 18:37:17 GMT
Maybe this article will work for you: Student: School suspended me for ‘hate speech’ when I protested wearing LGBT rainbow poppy The gist is that it was suggested by some students and teachers that the students wear an LGBT version of the rainbow poppy, a pin that is worn in the UK and Canada in remembrance of those who fought in World War II, during a choir performance. The student in question and a friend disagreed with that "suggestion" and voiced their opinions on the matter in the form of a poster that she and a friend placed in the hallway at school. While some might look at aspects of the poster itself and argue them as offensive I could honestly say the same about asking people to wear a rainbow LGBT pride version of the pin, especially given that the purpose of the red poppy is to show remembrance for all the soldiers who fought. Making it rainbow instead politicizes what is supposed to be a symbol of togetherness in hope and remembrance and segregates it, essentially trashing the purpose of the thing. The student was taken to the principal, prevented from recording the encounter by having her property confiscated by school administration, and then suspended for "hate speech." Rather than using this as a point for open discussion and possible learning the school chose to essentially censure the girls for having an opinion other than that expressed by the teacher and school administrators. The school isn't helping any of the misinformation that was distributed around the incident by refusing to release a statement or speak with the media, hiding behind student confidentiality. I pick TONS of those in Kingdom Come. They grow everywhere. But I digress... I couldn't agree with this kid more. Was he suspended for postering all over the school? That I could understand. But HATE SPEECH? I wonder if he's got a Go Fund Me. The kid even said she was hanging a few of the posters in the hallway and could see a teacher further down the hall coming along behind her removing some she had placed further down the hallway. The school specifically told her parents they were suspending her for hate speech. Pitiful feckless behavior from the school administration. They're either behind allowing expression of differing viewpoints or not. You can't be only for the expression of beliefs so long as you agree with them and no one is offended. We will always find things to disagree on and we certainly will always find people who are offended. The kid also states that she and her friend were threatened with retaliation if any of this were put onto social media or if she spoke to the media about the incident. Which the schools unwillingness to speak with reporters makes even more sense if that's true.
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Post by Uesugi-dono on Nov 17, 2019 13:32:44 GMT
Coming soon to a restroom near you...
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Post by endorbr on Nov 17, 2019 18:24:22 GMT
Coming soon to a restroom near you... Soon? How about already here.
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Post by endorbr on Nov 18, 2019 14:33:58 GMT
Starbucks’ open bathroom policy may be hurting foot traffic, new study finds Gee, who’d have thought caving to PC culture nonsense over calls that you’re racist for telling non-customers to buy something or get out just because those non-customers happen to be brown was a bad business move. Now their stores are full of squatters, the restrooms are used as public showers by the homeless, and the paying customers are deciding to go somewhere else. Call me not surprised. I didn’t need to do a research study to tell them this would happen. It’s exactly what I said would happen a year ago when their idiot CEO closed all their stores while he made all his employees get diversity and inclusivity training instead of simply sticking up for his store managers and standing behind the sound business practice of saying tables and restrooms are for paying customers only.
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Post by Uesugi-dono on Nov 18, 2019 15:01:04 GMT
Starbucks’ open bathroom policy may be hurting foot traffic, new study finds Gee, who’d have thought caving to PC culture nonsense over calls that you’re racist for telling non-customers to buy something or get out just because those non-customers happen to be brown was a bad business move. Now their stores are full of squatters, the restrooms are used as public showers by the homeless, and the paying customers are deciding to go somewhere else. Call me not surprised. I didn’t need to do a research study to tell them this would happen. It’s exactly what I said would happen a year ago when their idiot CEO closed all their stores while he made all his employees get diversity and inclusivity training instead of simply sticking up for his store managers and standing behind the sound business practice of saying tables and restrooms are for paying customers only. I think we all know that ol' Uesugi is NOT a big fan of Capitalism... but, I do understand Capitalism. If you force diversity into movies by race/gender swapping established characters, a la Ghostbusters, you get fewer profits. If you invite non-paying customers to squat in your bathrooms and use your space you drive off paying customers. This is not hard. You have target audiences. That's not to say only white folk see movies and only white folk drink coffee, but we still live in a majority white country (at least for the next few years.) If you alienate the MAJORITY of your potential customers by making hostile moves that favor counter culture then what can you really expect? Equality is when everyone, regardless of ethnic origins, race, religion, etc, has the same opportunities. Such as "everyone can come see this movie" or "everyone can come in and buy a coffee." Equality is NOT achieved by over-representation. A recent article pointed out that LGBTQRSTUV representation on tv and film is now double the percentage of the actual LGBT8UGHT population. Last time I checked black folks were about 13% of the population, but I just watched a Lady and the Tramp movie where they were ALL over early 1900s New Orleans in mixed relationships. This kind of over-representation is NOT helping relations, it is hurting them. This country has a dark history of inequality and slavery, glossing over that and pretending it didn't happen does NOT erase or ease racial tensions... it exacerbates them.
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Post by endorbr on Nov 18, 2019 15:42:13 GMT
Starbucks’ open bathroom policy may be hurting foot traffic, new study finds Gee, who’d have thought caving to PC culture nonsense over calls that you’re racist for telling non-customers to buy something or get out just because those non-customers happen to be brown was a bad business move. Now their stores are full of squatters, the restrooms are used as public showers by the homeless, and the paying customers are deciding to go somewhere else. Call me not surprised. I didn’t need to do a research study to tell them this would happen. It’s exactly what I said would happen a year ago when their idiot CEO closed all their stores while he made all his employees get diversity and inclusivity training instead of simply sticking up for his store managers and standing behind the sound business practice of saying tables and restrooms are for paying customers only. I think we all know that ol' Uesugi is NOT a big fan of Capitalism... but, I do understand Capitalism. If you force diversity into movies by race/gender swapping established characters, a la Ghostbusters, you get fewer profits. If you invite non-paying customers to squat in your bathrooms and use your space you drive off paying customers. This is not hard. You have target audiences. That's not to say only white folk see movies and only white folk drink coffee, but we still live in a majority white country (at least for the next few years.) If you alienate the MAJORITY of your potential customers by making hostile moves that favor counter culture then what can you really expect? Equality is when everyone, regardless of ethnic origins, race, religion, etc, has the same opportunities. Such as "everyone can come see this movie" or "everyone can come in and buy a coffee." Equality is NOT achieved by over-representation. A recent article pointed out that LGBTQRSTUV representation on tv and film is now double the percentage of the actual LGBT8UGHT population. Last time I checked black folks were about 13% of the population, but I just watched a Lady and the Tramp movie where they were ALL over early 1900s New Orleans in mixed relationships. This kind of over-representation is NOT helping relations, it is hurting them. This country has a dark history of inequality and slavery, glossing over that and pretending it didn't happen does NOT erase or ease racial tensions... it exacerbates them. I would argue the representation in media is MUCH more prevalent than that. Watch just about any recent movie or TV show, read any book, or play any video game these days and you would think that 1 out of 3 people you meet on the street is something out of the LGBT Alphabet Soup. Same thing with "minority" representation. You see a group of three in a movie or show, guaranteed that 1 out of 3 will be black. And one of the other two will be hispanic. Which is grossly inaccurate to what most people see day to day. Half the time odds are that all 3 of the characters will be women as well, at least one of them will be a lesbian, one of them will either be Muslim or dating a Muslim, and ALL of them will be Orange Man Bad hating liberal. This kind of representation does not help anything. It certainly doesn't change people's minds. It generally just makes people angry.
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Post by endorbr on Nov 19, 2019 14:33:20 GMT
Chick-fil-A will no longer donate to anti-LGBTQ organizations
Come on Chick-Fil-A. Don’t start pandering to these assholes now. So the Salvation Army and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes will no longer receive charitable donations from Chick-Fil-A because a bunch of alphabet soup ass pounders who don’t buy Chick-Fil-A products want to bitch to sites like CNN, WaPo, the NYTs, and Buzzfeed. Chick-Fil-A should stand firm and declare that anyone is welcome to come and buy a chicken sandwich while at the same time proclaiming that they support heterosexual marriage and Christian values and that anyone who doesn’t like that can feel free to not come buy a chicken sandwich.
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Post by Uesugi-dono on Nov 19, 2019 16:43:35 GMT
Chick-fil-A will no longer donate to anti-LGBTQ organizations
Come on Chick-Fil-A. Don’t start pandering to these assholes now. So the Salvation Army and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes will no longer receive charitable donations from Chick-Fil-A because a bunch of alphabet soup ass pounders who don’t buy Chick-Fil-A products want to bitch to sites like CNN, WaPo, the NYTs, and Buzzfeed. Chick-Fil-A should stand firm and declare that anyone is welcome to come and buy a chicken sandwich while at the same time proclaiming that they support heterosexual marriage and Christian values and that anyone who doesn’t like that can feel free to not come buy a chicken sandwich. Oh, please GOD let God's Chicken's popularity die. Pander to the queers, lose your fanatical eat-chicken-4-Jezus-e're-day crowd, and OPEN ON FUCKING SUNDAY.
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Post by Uesugi-dono on Nov 20, 2019 13:37:01 GMT
Some asshole uploaded the ENTIRE movie of TLJ...
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Post by endorbr on Nov 20, 2019 15:51:08 GMT
THIS exactly. This is what happens when you raise a generation telling them that they're all special, that they're all winners, that they all are entitled to the same quality of result regardless of their contribution.
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Post by kungfubunny9876 on Nov 21, 2019 18:18:42 GMT
Crazy Rich Asians Director Responds to Brenda Song's Claims She Was "Not Asian Enough" to AuditionCall me crazy, but I think poor Brenda Song is trying to stir the "discrimination" pot. She tried to get her agent to sign for Crazy Rich Asians because she was a fan of the book, but the fact of the matter is---Jon Chu knew who she was, but decided not to use her. Was it because she wasn't "Asian" enough? Would that be someone like Awkwafina is more Asian than she is? Or perhaps Henry Golding, who is HALF ASIAN? Absolutely not. I think people tend to overthink things in the climate we're living in. In this case, she was overracting in a gross and irresponsible way. The truth is, in all likelihood, was that Jon Chu couldn't find a role worthy of her talents. This happens to EVERY actor and actress in Hollywood that try to audition for a part.
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